So Now What? How 'bout Windows

IBS, you and I can always agree to disagree. I seek bargains because I MUST. I’ve made bad decisions because of it, like buying a used soft wash roof system because I thought it was a good deal. Meeting the seller in a parking lot should have been my first clue. Turned out to be a HUGE bust. I get your point: get quality from established vendors and you can’t go wrong. HOWEVER, some of us building a business from the Simpson Mega-Crap 325 have to crawl before we can walk, and buying great equipment from established vendors just may not be affordable yet. Today I CAN afford that, and I do and will. But many here including me haven’t experienced the success that’s necessary to be able to buy $50,000 from his Landa dealer without asking a price.

Oh, and this isn’t meant for everyone on this board. It’s meant for you:grin::smiley::rofl::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Sparkles I saw you saying you’ll turn 100k in your first year.

That’s plenty to finance yourself from working capital alone!

IBS is saying There’s more to value than price alone.

Look at it from our customers point of view. $99 housewash is cheaper… but they do a crap job so they hire you anyway for $250

Imagine a vendor who is 7% cheaper on the same part for your equipment. But they don’t have it in stock, so it’s 3 week wait for drop shipping … aaaaaand you miss the job.

Another guy vendor the part in stock. Costs 7% more and you have it in 3 days. Plus, he queries how you broke it and suggests a more durable part for +30%. Now you’ve spent +37% but you have short downtime and you don’t have to buy a new shitty part in 3 months.

His experience and service cost you more money. But the value to you was more than the price you paid.

Cost vs value.

(Just dont use it as an excuse to get shafted by a slick salesman haha. That’s a different problem)

You are preaching to the choir, buzz. I get it, you get it, and IBS eloquently (OK, maybe not eloquently) belabors the point. BUT, most of us start without and must build to IBSs ability to spend without asking for price or bargain because he knows that his vendor has their mutual best interest in mind. I hope to get there soon and join those of you who have really strong relationships with their suppliers. I’m just not there yet.

I still remember my first exposure to YOU when you were describing the 40,000 small dolphins that you left in your customer’s driveway with your backpack electric PW. I took that crap hook, line, and sinker. You remember that? I’m still embarrassed that I took you seriously.

SO, I haven’t been around long enough to know (a) good vendor(s) personally., but until then I’ll be forced to search for bargains.

Don’t be embarrassed. I have the gift of the gab.

I post plenty useful things. But since I can’t be usefulmto everyone, I make sure to post some subtle ■■■■■■■■ to filter out the people who aren’t committed to this line of work.

You fell for my jokes. But you kept learning and now you are able to see the jokes. So when i give contribute some useful serious advice, you can see it for what it is.

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Speaking of all that…

The house you messed up, how did it turn out with downstreaming the paint?

That’s not a goid subject top bring up. I flew down and spent 3 days helping him repaint the house. He had paint on the shingles, windows, everywhere. Kinda a mess. @BuzzLightyear is a great guy but not blessed with much common sense

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Rookie move… gotta tape off the roof, gutters, windows, etc.

I know. He knows now

@MrSparkleVA can you help this gentleman with the hook line and sinker stuck in his throat please

Don’t try to play out off. Ypu screwed up the house. I’m still waiting for you to pay for the fuel in the corporate jet

I thought you bought a system from @Atlas1 he is top notch a ok. What did you get a bust on?

I second that. @Atlas1is one of the nicest internet strangers I have never met.

Are you seriously trying to tell me you got the rough end of a deal with this top bloke?

Bueller ?Bueller ? Bueller ?

If Sparkles even thinks about responding to this… I will cast upon him such a filthy stare that he’ll feel his ears burning across tens of thousands of miles of ocean!

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Wowzers…

I didn’t mention any name in my post. I have had nothing but trouble with that purchase, to include the pump that I was never able to listen to before the purchase but roared like a lion when cycling on or off. I knew the first time I heard it that I was in trouble but it was long after I had bought it because I trusted a member of this forum to make an honest representation and bought it late in the afternoon in a parking lot without the advantage of testing it. I even had to replace the brake light system because it was so badly rusted out. You knew the lights were bad. You knew the pump was bad (the noise didn’t come when you bought that pump). So I went back and looked at you old posts where YOU had problem after problem. THAT’S why you sold the thing. You misrepresented the product and you misrepresented the sale. HOWEVER, CAVEAT EMPTOR, buyer beware.

You also seem to have a flare for exaggeration. I’ll bet we haven’t spent more than 30 minutes on the phone and that stopped soon after I heard that pump and realized what you’d done to me.

Why would you spend so much time defending yourself after such a sleazy sale? I never put your name out there, YOU did. Now everybody knows that you can’t be trusted. I’m not wasting anymore time on this, nor am I wasting any more time on you. I still wish you well, despite the sleazy sale. Good luck, and good bye.

Nope. One of the only things that are free in this life is your reputation. I’ve known @Atlas1 for almost 2 decades. He is beyond reproach in my opinion. If there are 2 sides to a story and one side belongs to Jesse, I take his side every time. He didn’t bring this up, you did. You have had a lot of support here and people backing you. That support from me ends immediately. What others do is up to them.

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You’re dead wrong here, and this is my final post on this subject. I’d call you out if YOU sold me something that just didn’t work. I’ve replaced the pump, the wiring for the trailer. I’ve had to change out the plumbing because the design had 90 degree turns all over the place and just did’t push the waater more than 15’. I’m not done. There’s still more to do. I will not argue about how nice Jesse is, he’s a swell guy who sold a pig in a poke. BTW, he argues that he spent all kinds of time with me. Had it worked properly, it wouldn’t have been necessary to give me Bob’s contact info. Only to fix a problem would I have needed to contact the vendor. Don’t you see through the fog of your need to defend someone who was never under attack in the first place?

This has all escalated into something that was totally unintended. In a post, I commiserated the bad choice to make a purchase. It was never intended to publicly cast aspersions on the seller, who would have remained nameless to all except the several who knew about the deal. Now he has folks like you coming to his defense when he was never under attack.

There are those here who have the gift of hyperbole, you among them. Let’s be adults here and stop acting like adolescents under attack. You can withhold your help to me in the future because I mentioned a bad deal that I regret. I hope you will rethink that, because your help and assistance is among the extraordinary tutelage that is the cornerstone to my success.

The facts are quite simple, and there’s little room for an alternate perspective when brought to bear: I bought a system in a parking lot that just didn’t measure up. I never intended to make this public, or private. I made the purchase, I pay the price. My only complaint was about a bad purchase. I never made it personal.

You shouldn’t either.

Not buying it. Your long post doesn’t change anything

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