Bingo!
You draw from the 6 gallon kit?
No , but I didnāt want confusion. Most donāt mix like we do , So we make our own concentrate, from concentrate. see what I mean ?
So I call my concentrate the 55 gallon drum mix .
I thought I was doing it wrong the whole timeā¦haha
Are you sure ?
You damn right Iād do it, if I could find away to keep the soap from sludging up on the bottom. Be the smallest proportion in the world @GeorgeNicholson. Lol
Yeah. Iāve done a few tests. The draw is pretty crazy.
But from what Iāve read on here, the smaller machines tend to draw more with the high injector.
Just make sure you check the draw again after you put in the proportioner, donāt take what x-jet says it will draw at
Quite a few guys have moved away from the High Draw and are using a stainless injector with proportioner from Dultmier. Squids has a video where he talks about it somewhere on here. He even converted IBS into switching and he can be stuck in his ways so it says a lot. Iāll try and find the thread and send it to you. I think Iām going to give it a try next season.
I saw the vid from squid! Quite good. I was confused at first b/c I saw some guys pushing that injector and others still pushing Pressure Tekās injector. Then I just figured it was a preference thing.
I was going to pick one up when I upgrade to a 5.5 or 8 gpm.
Yeah but isnāt the proportioners right at the injector? @qons
Yeah but does it make a difference? I think I recall you saying a few months back that it makes it easier to change out instead of having to pull the hose off of it? With us bleach slingers we donāt really need to change out the proportioner though. We canāt pull a strong enough ratio to where we can clean much more than vinyl and a few other things when down streaming. It just keeps us from having to batch mix is all. If we need a stronger mix for something else we pretty much have to move to a 12v or pump up.
So do yāall fill your chem tank with 100% SH and DS it straight with no proportioner and still donāt have enough cleaning power other than to do vinyl ? @marinegrunt
And the more I think about it, it would make sense to just go with Squidās instead of having a proportioner on the end of my poly hose. And Iām not sure if that would even really work in conjunction with the high draw thatās already on there.
Most of us have to dilute our sh down with water if using the High Draw without proportioner. With the stainless injector with proportioner from Dultmier we can just fill our mix tank with straight sh and Elemonator and not have to mess with diluting with water. If we pull straight sh without a proportioner weāre just wasting sh. For example if we dilute with water weāre probablyi getting about a .80% mix hitting the house. If we pull straight we might be getting 1.5% hitting the house. Itās just not strong enough to clean much more than vinyl or a few other things. You can sometimes clean stucco if itās not very dirty but we usually have to go to the 12 volt and use like a 2%-3% mix which we canāt get from an injector.
@Hotshot uses the High Draw with the proportioners at the end of a hose so it must pull okay. The soaps and chems he uses are much more concentrated than our sh so he can actually switch out proportioners depending on what heās cleaning. Sure would be nice to be able to down stream sh and clean anything we wanted @qons
Here you go @Hotshot. I posted a thing for you because I know thatās whatās going through your head.
Interesting @marinegrunt . yeah we pull our chems at 100% concentrate at 25 to 30:1 for our soaps mostly and our acids @40 to 50:1. Any stronger than that and were wasting chems or doing damage. now when I gotta totally brighten a dump trailer for example, Iāll take out my proportioner and DS straight HF @15:1 . If I need a mix stronger than 15:1, Say degreasing an engine, We gotta go to a stronger poly mix like you guys.
I bet yāalls SH is way harder on parts than our chems and acids, Me and @firefighter4hire were discussing that. My chems donāt eat wooden trailer floors,brass,copper,clothes etc. But do eat glass,paint, aluminum. Iāll wear out a GP high draw simply because the orifice is worn out from psi, not corrosion.
So are you saying that SS, DS injector from Dultmeier pulls more chem that the GP high draw ? If so Iām gonna buy it, again ā¦
No, Iām not saying it pulls more. The Dultmier injector just comes with a proportioner unlike the High Draw. Your way is kind of a home brew version and is the same idea as the Dultmier. Iām sure we can use the High Draw and x-jet proportioners exactly like you do and make it work. Weād just have to find the proportioner that prevents us from having to dilute. We just donāt have the need to swap out different proportioners because sh isnāt concentrated enough to where it makes enough difference. I imagine the stainless holds up better to the sh compared to the High Draw so thatās probably a plus for us. I doubt the stainless pulls more but we donāt really need it to. We just need one that pulls enough to pretty much clean vinyl and a proportioner that prevents us from having to dilute it with water. Adding water is just an extra step that takes time. Now, if we could get SH at a 100% concentrate (probably even 50%) we could swap out different proportioners just like you depending on what weāre cleaning. Unfortunately the strongest SH they have is 12.5% (maybe a little more when fresh) so all a proportioner does is allows us to pull it straight instead of having to dilute it down.
So no, the stainless probably doesnāt pull more. What it comes down to is you just figured out a way to add your own proportioners to a High Draw before anyone else on here did. And who says people from Arkansas arenāt smart? I would imagine your idea would work just as well as the stainless and itās a cheaper option. I think the only plus might be that the stainless might hold up better to sh. I know IBS said that he has broke a few proportioners off of the stainless. I think Iām going to try your way and the stainless to compare the two. The High Draw seems to last plenty long for us so longevity isnāt that big of a concern. Flushing definitely helps though.
Yes heād did , I bought one as well , thought it was a great idea until I kept braking the plastic proportioner off , but in its defense, It was winter and nothing plastic likes the cold. thatās when i said screw it and went with a adjustable injector, The super sud sucker dual injector 2000. Well that sucked because it was always moving on me and throwing my ratios outta wack or getting stuck in the open position, Shoving water in my chems also outta wack, So I finally figured out the high draw and those metering tips.
Only took me several hundred dollars in wasted soap,acid,injectors and poly hose and months of what the hell.