New Injector Troublehsooting

Hey all, we recently upgraded to a new Pressure Pro Eagle Series 4GPM 4000PSI unit, from a piece of crap big-box-Chineesium brand unit which was 4GPM 4200PSI. After hooking up the new unit we noticed the draw rate was “off” and ran a test of the draw rate and found it was significantly lower. We are using the GP 100835OR after some recommendations on this forum. I’m really confused by the results and hoping you all may have some insight.

When using our “low” soap tip (2540) we draw, at best, 13%. With the traditional black soap tip, or no tip at all, we get almost an unmeasurable amount drawn. Here are some things we have checked so far:
-The direction is correct for the injector
-No clogs in the line/gunged up filter at the end of the draw tube that I can find
-We cut a portion of the draw tube off to make sure there was a good connection
-Verified our unloader was open all the way

Here’s a pic of our current setup. I found several threads with the same question, but have not found a solution that worked for us yet. Sorry for the low quality potato picture - tried to solve this during the day. Thank you in advance.

Edited to include the injector link, and to add that we usually use 200’ of hose. General / Interpump Chemical Injector, 1 Barb: .070'' Orifice, 1.42 GPM @ 100 PSI - Dultmeier Sales

Take off the bypass and try again.

Sounds good, we’ll give it a go and post the results. Are bypasses actually an issue, are you just meaning for troubleshooting purposes?

Just eliminating variables. The other guys know a lot better than me, I did notice you have a proportioner on that injector.

First off, take the injecter bypass where you have located and move next to reel if possible. That’s a ton of weight between unloader and the by-pass hanging off your pump. Second, set up your by-pass with the injector in the loop. What’s the # on your injector. Should probably by 2.1 or maybe a 1.8. You should be getting right at 10-1 with that machine and right injector.

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did you try replacing the injector to rule out a bad injector?

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I 2nd what @mwpws said. I’ve had new injectors pull like crap. Through another one on there and it pulls great. They are unpredictable. Look into the injector with the check valve.

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Can someone enlighten me a bit, if @watergun_jacob is drawing 13%, then isn’t that ~8:1? I.e. what is to be expected pretty much…

Thank you for the reply. Sadly we don’t have a reel yet (next on the list, my arms are killing me!) but I will try changing the position of the injector in the bypass - I didn’t realize I had it setup wrong. Will post back as soon as I have results.

On that note and to everyone else that replied I’ll look for anywhere near us that sells injectors to swap put. The goal is to get the highest draw rate possible. Recommendations on that are welcome. I’ll update with the orifice of the injector as soon as I get home.

I would order a 1.8 High Draw. That will likely give you the highest draw rate.

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Move your injector further downstream from the unloader and pump.

As mentioned, pickup an unloader block to get the weight off the pump.

You’ll need a whip to run from outlet on pump to unloader block. Length depends on how far away you mount the unloader block.

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I love this forum. Every time I think I have the hang of something, you all add more knowledge to the book! I’ll do that. Thanks!

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Our injector is 0.070

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Wrong injector and your plumbing is backwards

@Innocentbystander
I’m planning to order the 1.8 that Marine recommended above, since Racer also suggested a 1.8. When you say the plumbing is wrong, can you be more specific? Are you referring to what Racer already recommended above regarding swapping the bypass valve and injector positions, or something else?

I’d go with the 2.1, but injectors are cheap so try a bunch. Male end leads, not female.

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Just made one today

Parts list ?

Either your ball valve backwards or the rest of it backwards. You want the DSI towards the exit of the ‘U’.

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