So….I have a problem. I’ve still got some elemonator for house washes and it’s great. I am completely out of surfactant to put in my roof tank for proportioner. Elemonator won’t ship to me either so I’m holding out from using that for my roof mix too. I had been using Midwest orange cling. They were affordable and best of all shipped to Alaska for a very reasonable rate.
Fast forward to this year. It’s getting bad. Logistics is absolutely killing me. Shipping for everything has been absolutely wild and I (I’m sure others are well) am feeling the crunch.
I’m trying to find options to have things shipped up to me in 5 gallon buckets that aren’t 180-300$ in just shipping plus product price. I came across Non-Ionic Surfactant Pails that I might be able to get at more affordable prices shipped. It looks bleach stable and not overpriced. Has anyone gone this route? Used the search bar but didn’t find much. Desperate times call for desperate measures so I’m trying to figure out any angle to be able to get bulk stuff shipped up here without selling off my first born, though the older he gets theore inclined I am to make that trade
Any advice/input is appreciated. Someone come visit me and bring some dang soap! LOL
Sorry to hear about your troubles. There are soaps you can make yourself, with some dry ingredients (save on weight and shipping). But lets be honest, that would be a PITA.
SLES and SLS, both are anionic. Lots of youtube videos of people making it. I wish I had something else to help you out with, can’t imagine what you are paying for shipping.
It very well could be placebo since I was so over elemonator… Downstreaming I do like 1/2 oz to 5 gallons SH. Proportioner I do the the instructions on the package (8 oz to 5 gallons of water) and 1-3 on the dial.
Not being smart, is it worth it to save 4 bucks? Guess I could mix up a gallon of it and see, but the last time I tried another soap it turned my tank purplish, and I never got the smell they said it gave off. Elemonator is just a glug glug and done (stole that one from IBS).
Man. That would save me a ton of cash. Ordered some today. Will arrive in like 2 weeks. Lol. Amazon prime isn’t as cool up here as it is down south that’s for sure.
Price wasn’t a deciding factor in the switch, but the cost difference is hard to ignore.
Using a proportioner, $27 worth of Mango Mauler can produce 10 gallons ($2.70 per gallon) of soap mix. By comparison, $31 of Elemonator diluted at its maximum recommended 1:1 ratio only yields 2 gallons ($15.50 per gallon). Even mixing straight into a 5 gallon pail to downstream, I would need to use 4-5 oz of Elemonator to get the same impact of 1/2 oz or less Mango Mauler.
I’ve been using it for 3 years. Not disappointed at all. It has not masking scent so if you want that, you have to buy that additionally. I’ve used a masking scent until this year when I tried without it. The scent is nice but not essential.
Bonus if you do roofs is that it works for it, too.
I cut mine with water 50/50. Makes it easier to pour. And after the 50/50 mix, I’m using 1-2 ounces per 5 gallons.
PWP does their shipping weird. I recently ordered slo mo and paid $77 in shipping. But after it arrived, I was reimbursed $30. Same thing happened the last time I ordered it.
Not saying you’d have the same thing happen, but other guys have reported the same thing happening for them. So at least worth considering. Though sounds like you might have found a fit with the mango mauler.
I have tried buying slo mo several times and always run into weird shipping stuff. If mango mauler works for me that would be ideal but I always got an ear out for other alternatives because I need to think like 8 steps ahead with shipping things. It’s the .odt frustrating part of the biz for me
Thank you for posting that. I guess I’m confused, or my tired brain isn’t functioning correctly. The website said their pouch equals a gallon of regular soap. With elemonator I would say I’m at .5 ounce per gallon. So is this more highly concentrated so a .25 per gallon dilution ratio? I don’t use a proportioner on the 3 soap remote and batch mix my SH/soap. This ratio has served me well, not too much soap to make rinsing harder but enough for a decent cling.
Yeah, it’s super concentrated. When I first started using it, I followed the batch recommendation of 16 oz per 130 gallons, but scaled it way down since I was only downstreaming with a 5-gallon bucket. That worked out to about 1/2 oz of Mango Mauler to 4 gallons of SH. From there, I tweak it a bit to dial in the cling and scent I like.
1/2 ounce for 4 gallons is a pretty big change, and there would be a cost savings. Thanks. Maybe I’ll check it out after I work all the bugs out of my system. When it rains it pours.
I’ve also been ordering directly from Neutrapods, since they often have the 80 oz bag for $80. Ends up being $1.15 per ounce after tax/shipping vs. $2.44 for the 16 oz bag… at the end of the day it starts to add up.
