Look at the Gen3 from powerwash store I’ve worked the snot out of mine no problems
Awesome thank you for the advice @Kps0410.
Will do they want me to quote the job but want to make sure everything works out before I do I will have to order one ASAP
You are definitely going to want a hotter mix on that. 12v would be ideal for that but I’ve never owned an xjet so can’t comment on how it would do. Should clean up nice though.
@SurfaceMedic thanks man I think I might try an XJet for now just because it’s more in my range for now I will definitely put a 12v together when I get the cash. From what I have read an XJet will put out a higher percent of SH so hopefully it works need to search for more info though
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@anon37135677 So just to make sure I’m understanding everything here…does an XJet allow you to stream at a higher mix rate than a normal downstream?
Yes. Up to about 50/50.
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Is that without using any proportioner?
Yes the chart above explains ^
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I use those tips to DS with in my 100% soaps and acids. Those ratios on the card are for using an xjet only. Don’t get the 2 confused @qons
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@Hotshot 
I thought I was at the point of understanding until I read this.
What tips are you talking about?
I use those xjet tips @ the end of my 1/4 DS draw tubes to regulate my acids and soaps. For instance, My gp injector will draw @ 15:1, And I need my soaps for example to draw at 30 :1 ,so I put the correct proportion tip in to achieve that amount being drawn.
Also I run 2 pick up lines for two different chemicals at 2 different ratios off my DS via 3 way ball valve. Using proportioners this way will alleviate batch mixing all together, and keep it simple and also keep the help from making the soap and acid hotter, saving you money.@qons
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Thanks, I been looking for an answer to this for a long time…
Did I do my math right. for a 5 gallon mix.
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12.5% x 100% bleach = 0.125 = move the decimal over by 2 = 12.5 %
Injector is 2:1
12.5% divby 2 = 6.25%
So that will be a little over 6 % on the wall?
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Now, i’m not saying I’m going to do that. Just wanted to see if my math was right…
Thanks…
There’s no injector that’s 2:1. Maybe you’re just using that as an illustration. But I want to make sure you know that. 
And, actually, no, you’re math isn’t right. 
1:1 would actually be 6.25%.
2:1 would be 4.17%.
Think of it like this:
If I take a cup of bleach at 12.5% and then add a cup of water, what’s my new percent? 6.25%. What’s my ratio? 1:1.
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Thanks, I saw this: injector https://www.dirtkiller.com/shop/product/9800026-2-1-soap-injector-complete-1243?category=128
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It says “2;.1 Soap Injector Complete $ 39.00” in bold letters.
After your reply, I went back and read the find print, It was 10:1.
So the 2.1 was the size of the orifice nozzle…Not the injector itself…Sneaky…
So it confuse me.
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Thanks for clearing that up to me…
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I understand half of 12% is 6% = 1:1 though a hand pump…But if I put an 10:1 injector on, the number would be different…
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I’m trying find a formula to use with different size injuctors…
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What is the smallest injectior you can buy.?
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so your saying this math is wrong.
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10:1 injector.
12.5% x 100% bleach = 0.125 = move the decimal over by 2 = 12.5
Injector is 10:1
12.5 divby 10 = 1.25% on the wall
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Thanks for taking the time…
1.8 is the smallest.
Your math still isn’t right but it’s close.
12.5% at 10:1 is actually 1.14%
Remember, with ratios you have to add both sides to get the total. 10:1 ratio means there are 11 parts in total—10 parts water and 1 part SH. Just like 1:1 ratio means there are two parts in total—1 part water and 1 part SH.
Most guys just divide by 10 though they should divide by 11. But I’ve never given anyone trouble over it.
Also, there’s no such thing as a 10:1 injector. They go by orifice size. Gpm of your machine and other factors determine what your ratio is.
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I see…You adding both numbers, 10:1 =11
12.5% bleach divby 11 is 1.136 and you round it off to 1.14% on the wall…
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So, can I use this math as a starting point…And once I have everything hooked up. run some test…
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Let’s say I have an injector that is 20:1 (100% bleach in a five galoon mix)
12.5% bleach divby 21 = .0059 Move the decimal over by 2 = .59% on the wall…
100 would be 1% - Sooo, .59% is a little over 1/2% on the wall…
I’m a little confuse….there are injectors size that are:
20:1-…20 part water to 1 part of bleach = .59% on wall (Little over ½%)
10:1 – 10 part water to 1 part bleach = 1.14% on walls
In this line of thinking, what is the smallest Injector you can get?
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Then you have orifice sizes.
2:1
2:2
2:3 and so forth.
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When you say 1:8 is the smallest,
are you saying,
1 part bleach to 8 part water. Or 1 part water to 8 part bleach? Or
are you saying that the 1:8 is the smallest orifice size?
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I’m confuse about the injector size vs orifice size?
If I see an injuctor that says 4:1 -… Are they saying 4 part water to 1 part bleach
Or are they saying that the orifice size is 4:1…
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That’s why I’m asking what is the smallest injector size: (part water to part bleach) you can buy. The smaller the injuctor size the less bleach you have to buy is my thinking…
the smallest i’v seen is a 10:1 injectors…But on y-tube, I have read that there is a 4:1 injector…and a lot of people said it wasn’t true…So maybe he was refering to the orifice size. Anyway, what is the smallest injector out there ,(part water to part bleach)
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Thanks for your time…
Exaple: I saw this: It said “2;.1 Soap Injector Complete $ 39.00” in bold letters.
Then in the the find print, It said, “Applies soap at 10% or 10 to 1 ratio”
So the injector was a 10:1 with a orifice sizes 2.1…
Soo, I thought it was saying 2 part water to 1 part bleach…
OK.Ok i’m seeing it now… What GMP is going though my pressure washer determines the size of orifice sizes I buy. So i have a 4 GPM pressure washer.
So i would buy an injector with a 2.1 orifice sizes. and to try to buy the smallest ratio output I can find…Which is 10:1 -… Is there a smaller one out there.
Let’s say 8:1-…8 parts to water to 1 part bleach…
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So you have to pay attention to these 2 dots…( . or : )
One dot ( . ) means orifice sizes. 2.1 for a 4 GPM pressure washer.
Two dots ( : ) means the ratio output of saop that the injuctor. can do. 10:1 or whatever.
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