Down Stream Injector always pulls soap?

Hello Gents,

I have seen the ton of info on here about DS chem injectors not pulling soap. I have tried to search to see when the opposite happens, and haven’t found much info.

So I have a 8gpm with 250’ of hose on the reel. I am using a 3-5gpm injector,( because of the length of hose I am using), and is hooked up to the swivel on the hose reel, and the injector/arrow is facing the right direction, and when I put my 0020, and 2520 rinse nozzles on, they are still drawing chems through the hose. Any ideas/advice would be greatly appreciated.

Also I do not know if this comes into play, but when I am pulling anything (ie water, chems) The hose reel makes a god awful very loud noise, is this normal? I am pulling all of the hose off the reel when using it. The noise coming from my other set up which is a 5.5 gpm makes very little noise when anything is being pulled through the reel.???

Thanks for any advice in advance.



Have you tried your spare injector? The loud noise is the 8 gallons per minute being pushed through the smaller orifice in the 3-5 gpm injector, most likely. They can get loud.

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Can you pull soap with a 5-8 gpm injector?

I am having the same issue. I have been trying to find some research about it, but haven;t come up with anything.

Try the M5 X-jet. Gave up DSing years ago because of problems like this.

it is most likely clearing out the soap that is already in the hose, 250’ of hose.

Thanks for the responses fellas. Much appreciated.

It is a brand new injector…it is a modified one from Bob at pt. I will try another new one.

And I thought it may be taking a while to flush out the 250’ of hose too, but I let it run for a decent amount of time to no avail.

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the only reason it could possibly be pulling is because there is not enough back pressure, check your tips, they may be worn

I have brand new tips on there, but I will try another set.
Thanks

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i have the same setup- same injector from bob… get him to send you a mini ball valve to put in line… We rinse with the same tips that we apply with so the helper will walk back and flip the ball valve on and off. (ball valve goes in the downstream line)

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Lee I appreciate the feedback. I do have a ball valve in line at the injector.

It kinda seems like it defeats the purpose if you have to keep sending someone back just to shut off the soap. Do you think getting smaller orifice rinse nozzles would stop it from pulling soap?

I’m starting to get down on the downstreaming…lol Between these things cradling out so quickly, not drawing, and drawing all the time, I’m starting to think this ain’t so great… Can some one tell me some good news about d’sing or maybe even a funny joke would do…ha ha.

Thanks again for everyone’s input…

Downstreaming is not for everyone. Some have the patience to master it. The rest will spend their lives tethered to a five gallon jug.

Patience my friend, have patience.

Smaller nozzle would raise line pressure and stop soap. Closing the ball valve slightly may induce enough pressure to stop soap.

Rinsing with soap like pressure is the ultimate in washing experience. Send a man back to the truck. :slight_smile:

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The reason you’re still pulling soap is because of your hose length. The longer the hose the more pressure drop you have. The injector senses this and even with the #20 nozzle in the injector reacts as if were a larger nozzle size…if that makes sense. Yes going to a smaller nozzle will stop the injector from pulling. If you dropped 50’ off your reel the injector will stop pulling.

Down Streaming is the Bomb!!!

Tim great advice… As a wise man once said, “Serenity now Jerry…Serenity now…”.

What size nozzle down would you go to?
Thanks:)

I would send the man back to the truck. All that 15 nozzle business gets hard on a shoulder after a while.

we send a guy to the truck… its really not that bad ( your paying them to do something arent you! lol) basically we clean a house with 2 nozzles, a 0 degree and a 40 degree. Soap the front and rinse, the soap the side and back and rinse, then hit the last side and rinse and your done. We really promote the use of low pressure on all siding cleaning jobs, with the ball valve in line it lets us clean at under 100 psi. I can comfortable stick my hand in front of a 0 degree tip on my 8gpm machine

Ha. Ha. Good point. My shoulders are already screwed they’re looser than a $2 ■■■■■:)

There ya go, we’ve been doing it that way for years. Only gripe is when we’re doing 3 story apartments…and we don’t have an extra guy to pull soap…it’s a work out but really not that big of a deal.

I always send a guy back to the truck…I put down all my stuff…and walk back to the truck…then walk back to my stuff…its nice having a two man crew, but when your just starting out and you don’t have a crew…its you walking back to the truck. I’m losing a LOT of weight with all this walking.

I even tried playing around DS with 50’ of hose and I was still drawing soap through all four nozzles(I have the nozzle thing from PressTek)

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Well Guy…And ksroofs I appreciate it. And Guy thanks for taking the time to find that post.
You da man:)