We Are Winning

To late. I’m in. My computer has a microphone apparently. I’ve probably lowered the standard level there already

You have much to learn grasshopper, When you’re done killing small indefensible animals in the woods, the lessons will commense! LMK.

I LOVE cleaning windows. Although there is less revenue generated, the serenity of the glass can’t be fully appreciated by the PW pro unless experienced.

This is the view from yesterday’s window job that turned into a PW job also (I seldom get hired for windows that I fail to upsell PWing)

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SORRY @squidskc, but the argument holds no H2O. Sure, cleaning windows is an art form, but one that any 5 year old can master. I should know because I have the artistic ability of a 5 year old, yet blow my customer’s minds when I tell them that it’s just Dawn and water in my bottle, and that contrary to PWing (where the magic is in the chemicals) the true magic in window cleaning is in the simple tools and the technique (that any 5 year old can master with practice and YouTube :wink: As grateful as I am for all of the knowledge that I have gleaned from you guys here, primarily my mentors @Innocentbystander , @Racer , @squidskc , [not to forget @tireshark and @BuzzLightyear who teach me humility and the importance of not taking onesself too seriously], I am truly beholden to the folks at WCR. Special mention to @Jordie for teaching me the “artform.” BTW, nobody kows better than Jordie that one art form is no better than the other: to master either requires practice and is certainly enhanced with good tutelage. Jordie’s YouTube videos will teach ANY of you the dynamic “artform” that appears to be magic to the uninitiated.

Trust me you are not getting the shaft. Pressure washing from ropes is terrible. You get soaked and are cold even on a warm day. You lose a lot of control of your work position the lower you get down the building because longer rope allows you to swing more. Only benefit is you can charge more if that’s the only way to access.

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You had me at upsale!

Well then, I want to see some serious read time and lots of newbie questions, not to mention some professional, top-notch memes. :wink: And dont tell me you’re too old. You can’t be more than 50.

@MrSparkleVA, thank you for the unexpected kind words. There definitely is an art to both services. In training someone else to do both, the window cleaning was more difficult to learn. Kinda reminds me of hanging sheetrock (power washing) and finishing sheetrock or plastering (window cleaning).

But now I gotta get back to talking trash. :smirk:

Man i can assure you I don’t want to clean windows. I’ve lived in my house since 2004 and the windows have never been cleaned. Heck, my wife has hired someone to wash it for the least 10 years. This little forum is my therapy place. I will leave y’all alone over there.

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:monkey: Aw shucks, alright then, guess we’ll just have to carry on without any fun…:guardsman:

Invite @Ikii over there. He might steal you window squeegees but he will be loads of fun to pick on

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Walk Away

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That’s a giant over simplification. I am primarily a window cleaner and have been for 15 years. Your statement above might be true for a few simple storefronts or single story homes with modern double hung windows but that’s about it.

After a few years you encounter impossible access, specialty coatings on the glass, windows that are too hot to touch in sunlight, post construction messes, fabricating debris and every other imaginable difficulty. Then you have to understand the difference in hard and soft rubber, water based chemicals vs acids to remove stains, when to use bronze wool, how to use a scraper, the difference in washer sleeves, and whether to use microfiber, a scrim or huck towels.

Not to mention there is a whole other area of expertise using pure water. Understanding the different brushes, monofilament, flocked, boars hair, etc. Knowing about TDS and knowing how to achieve a zero tds with your equipment, knowing about resins, RO, and filters. Learning to use a 35’ pole without breaking the window or your back, and a million other little things like the difference between hydrophilic and hydrophobic glass.

A five year old with a YT account doesn’t do jobs like this
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https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18403025_10155682831309311_2249074627207896281_n.jpg?oh=8917656e3e0ab932c6aee2b722db3f36&oe=5A8A86EB

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10649759_10152961723699311_7675829049128629475_n.jpg?oh=3a5541266eba602e7ec7c4c03adc54d1&oe=5ACCAA22

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10450770_10152961723919311_194484187685938943_n.jpg?oh=bdfd08a7ee2a3d75f7a0f50fcd36ce2a&oe=5A89110F

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21034492_10156057013624311_6858894009823115950_n.jpg?oh=eb4de0c969f79564b07f54015a37dc0f&oe=5AC0F240

That job would take me at least 30 minutes and two rolls if paper towels and a half bottle of windex. I use rhe good paper towels. Thai way I can reuse them once

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I suggest you cut the Windex 50/50 with water to save money…

Guess the punk doesnt have a lufe and cant live without me.

There you go with the name calling. Tisk tisk. Thought you might like access to more websites to steal from. Sorry. Thought I wash looking out for you.

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So you have to learn some rhings in your trade (and every trade) and oh no its hard like any other manual labor job. Guess that’s why they call it “work” still not seeing the “art” … I took a turd out of a pipe yesterday… Guess nowadays I could frame it and sell it as art… I have customers say " you make it look so easy" but I never had a customer tell me it looks like art when im done cleaning their home…
Where’s George Carlin when you need him?

Where did I ever say it was an art form?

Next time dont call if you cant handle it.
Srsy on pojnt and dont hijack peoples topic

Sorry Steve… Didn’t mean to hit that little button. For you. I was still replying to Mr S… But a lot of trades men seem to use “art” as a replace ment for technique or skill or hard work… So since you were mentioning all that I was just trying to point out the difference to people. My bad for tagging you…

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For what it’s worth I don’t think the trades are art either. I think “art” is music, books, poetry, painting, sculpture, photography, drawing, films and any other form of creative self expression. I think trades are skills unless of course you are a welder who makes decorative hand railings, or a stone mason who makes designs in his work etc…