Tractor Talk

I know there’s been some tractor talk on here in the past but I’m in the market for one and I’m hoping some of you tractor peeps can give me some insight on what might fit my needs the best. I know @Dirtyboy is a Kioti fan so I’d like to hear more on those.

My local dealers are John Deere, Branson and I believe there’s a Mahindra dealer nearby as well. I’m looking for something that can handle brush hogging five acres of pasture but also be used for mowing the main yard which is roughly 3 acres. I’ve done a bit of research and it looks like a SCUT tractor would be best for what I need. I’d like to get something that has a loader bucket but that’s not an absolute must-have if the cost savings are substantial enough without it. I will need a brush hog (I’m thinking 4-5’), a box blade (probably 5’), it would be nice if it had a removable mowing deck for the main yard but I’m thinking I’d rather mow that with a ZTR.

Thoughts? Anything you’d recommend or have me reconsider? Is 4x4 really necessary for what I intend to use it for? Warranty on one brand better than the other? Glaring design flaws with one brand or the other? Lay it on me!

I bought a 2017 kubota L2501HST last year for $16,600. Used it at my land to do what I need and sold it two weeks ago for $16k Probably could have got more but it was to a buddy. I think the Mahindra’s are just as good. I have a 1956 Ford that pulls the bush hog fine and has a belly mower, but no bucket or hoe

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Former Mahindra salesman here…take that for what it is.
Mahindra will have the best warranty out of all of the others. No sub compact tractors are made here in the USA - they all come from overseas but usually have final assembly here on US soil. Mahindra and Branson will both have greater lift capacities on both front-end loader and three point hitch when compared to the JD. Mahindra will offer both HST and shuttle drive options in most model sizes.
I’d check out a Mahindra Max series or 1600 series. The eMax may be a little small for what you’d like to do. Mahindra makes two very different 26 HP (25.6 HP) tractors. Same engine, different sized frames/tractors. Both are impressive for their sizes.
4x4 isn’t necessary for lawn mowing and grading well maintained drives, but most tractors will allow you to disengage 4x4 just like a truck will.
Most tractors today make it a breeze to remove and then reattach the front-end loader. You’ll end up using it more than you think you will. But you’re likely to save $3-4k by not having it.
Stay under 28 engine HP and you won’t have to worry about DPF or regeneration on any brand of tractor, but go over that and then you’ll have a strong argument for Mahindra as they don’t require either of those headaches!
JD will likely be a lighter tractor than the others in terms of curb weight. You’ll want the weight for ground-engaging applications such as loader work, grading with a box blade, etc. JD often times went with an aluminum transmission case which has its advantages in heat displacement, it doesn’t help in the traction department.
Go ahead and skip the mid mount mower deck on a tractor. For the $3k or so it’ll cost ya, put that towards a decent z-turn for mowing the immediate area around the home.
A tractor is one thing that you’ll usually never regret buying more than what you’ll think you need.
Be sure that whatever you buy has a good dealer in your area that doesn’t appear to be going anywhere.
Let me know if I can be of further assistance!

This shows the Mahindra 1526 (now known as the 1626)

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Also, be sure to ask whatever dealership you’re at about “package deals” - most everyone has something available. Mahindra had a Power Package Program, Militay/First Responder/Teacher program, etc.

Be sure to check with your potential dealer about the cost of the first service. Even if you plan on doing it yourself, it’ll be beneficial to know what all is involved - both on the parts/consumables end as well as the financial part of it.

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Dang! You know your stuff. That all sounds like excellent advice to me. I have seen the packàge deals and some of them seem pretty awesome for the price but I don’t have any idea how well values hold on the different brands. I really liked the package deals at the Mahindra dealer right down the road. Specifically this one:

https://www.tatummotor.com/default.asp?page=xInventoryDetail&id=10764200&p=1&s=(Sort%20By)&d=D&fr=xcustominventory

That one seems to hit just about everything I thought I might want/need. Maybe a bit on the smaller side but I don’t plan to use it for anything but around the property. Any experience with that one?

The link you have listed is for a Branson. I can’t speak much on that brand as I didn’t have a competitive dealer in my territory in Colorado to routinely go tit for tat with. I do know that Branson likely has more standard features, weighs more, lifts more, and costs less than JD or Kubota. But, JD and Kubota will both have every accessory known to man available if that’s what you are looking for.

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That 1526 is impressive. I’ve used a Mahindra tractor in the past (no idea which one, didn’t pay attention to those things back then) and that thing was a beast. Pulled the brush hog no problem and could lift some pretty heavy stuff with the loader. I read that Mahindra sold out or something and that getting parts was harder than other brands but I honestly have no idea on that stuff.

Well, I’ll be dipped. You’re right. Funny, because when you click on new inventory and go down to Mahindra packages that’s where it’s listed. Didn’t even catch that.

It’s been about 3 years since I’ve been in the sales field, but at the time Mahindra was the largest tractor conglomerate in the world. In the USA, it was #3 behind Kubota and Deere, but sold more units world wide than the others for sure. Mahindra own many other brands, so I doubt they sold out. The 1500/1600 series is a former Mitsubishi Tractor painted red with modern upgrades. Mitsubishi tractors in one of the brands Mahindra bought out. That 26HP engine was our bread and butter in both the smaller and larger frame units for people with 10 acres or less.

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See, I’ve considered saving myself a whole lot of money and just buying an just buying an old 8n or 9n and a cheap brush hog but it’s also nice to just hop on and turn the key and go without worrying about if the hydraulics are gonna work or if it’ll start or whatever.

Mines a 640 and it will start every single time as long as you jump the battery, have half a can of ether, remember the fuel is shut off, put air in the tires, fight the wasps that have built a nest under the seat etc. Easy peasy

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The DR mower gets more of a work out than most anything I have

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Lol sounds like a good way for me to go insane.

It builds character. Also makes you appreciate 12v systems.

Yeah I’ve been reading on swapping those old Ford’s over to 12v. Doesn’t seem awfully hard and most of the ones I’ve found for sale are already swapped. I just preach buy once cry once so much that I’d feel hypocritical to cheap out on something that I’d use so much.

I’m kinda at the point in life that I can buy what I want, but I wanted an old Ford like my grandpa’s. Good way for the kids to learn stuff also. The Kubota was a splurge but I knew I could sell it and break even. It served it’s purpose for tight work in the woods, but I’d never want to use it for anything else or pull a mower with. They are tiny if you have any size to you.

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I second skipping the mid mount mower. I can’t see why anyone would buy a tractor without the FEL, if you ever go to sell it that is what people want. Go ahead and sell your wheelbarrow if you have one, you will never use it again. A scut will do what you want it to, but if your going to be using a box blade you need a heavier tractor. Most of the paint colors don’t matter that much. I know several people with mahindras that like them. If you add a cab to a tractor, add 5 more HP to your desired tractor to deal with the added weight. Make sure to spec the tractors overall HP and then make sure to check what you get at the PTO, some units have a very significant dropoff. I would steer clear of those. Most tractor manufacturers give misleading info about their FEL lift capacity, scrutinize that closely. I’d never own a tractor without 4x4, you can turn it on and off. Industrial tires are ok, ag tire will probably not serve you well, if your mainly cutting grass maybe…maybe look at turfs, but I would still go with industrials.

All implements need to be bigger than the rear tires, like tillers, RFM, box blades, etc, unless you are doing some kind of fancy offset.

Makes sure you fill your rear tires especially if you plan on doing any FEL work or box blading. but don’t use anything even slightly corrosive or goodbye tires over time. Have the dealer do it if they are reasonable, it is a PITA.

Go to tractor by net and read some stuff there, lots of great info after you weed out all the fanboys. I would read the ownership sections to see what issues people are having with a particular model. All tractors have issues, some just have less issues. I had an issue with harmonics on my previous tractor, took out 5 psi in the rears and the shimmy went away.

Buy old iron (implements). All my stuff has only gone up in value since I bought it. I sold a 6’ RFM for more than I paid for it after using it for years. The king cutter name gets knocked around, but their 6’ tiller had held up for 10 years and I beat it and mistreat it. a 4" grinder and some flap wheels and a couple of rattle cans and it is good as new. Stay away from the chinese stuff, most of it is a gamble at best.

I mow 9 acres like most people mow their sub division front yards. I use my zero turn for the stuff around the house, then the 7’ for the rest. I really wanted a batwing, but not dropping 10k to save a little time.

I own a 50hp tractor and a 26 hp zero turn, both run on diesel. I use home heating oil to fuel both. I also add some power service to it to add some lubricity to the fuel.

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Some great info on here guys. It’s been 15 years since I’ve owned a 28hp Kubota, but we worked the heck out of it around new home construction projects and I cut about 35 acres with a 6’ bush hog and had an 8’ sickle blade for it., about once a month. Took awhile with only 6’ hog. Owned it about 6-7 years and it never had to go back to the dealer once. Around here Kubota and JD have the best dealer network. Have never even heard of a Mahindra till this thread. Good stuff though.

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Oh gosh it’s all so interesting and so many decisions to be made. I’m not buying one right away so I have a few months but I think I’ll start by just going around and getting on a few to see what fits me best. Keep all the info coming, boys. @Dirtyboy thanks for the advice. I knew you would come through!

Definitely just mow around the house with a zero turn. I have a large area behind the house that I used to mow with the finish mower behind the tractor and one day decided to just continue on with the zero as I finished around the house. Zero takes about 25% less time than tractor and there’s nothing to mow around, just open space.

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