Industrial Storage Tank Cleaning

Does anyone have any experience with cleaning the insides of large (5,000 gallon+) above-ground storage tanks?

At my old job we worked a lot with confined spaces, paper mills, waste water facilities, drinking water facilities, and other various industries. I know it is something that has to be done, in some cases on an annual basis.

I have a decent idea of what the process would like from an operational perspective. Safety precautions/procedures and equipment for confined space work, chemical protective clothing and respirators, vac-truck rental, pressure washers, chemical application, etc.

I am mainly curious as to what others experience is with this type of work. Is it a profitable niche to get into? What issues have you run into, lessons learned.

I know the industrial side of cleaning hasn’t been discussed as much on this forum (at least from what I have searched for), but I figured someone on here has to have done it in the past.

As always, thanks for your time!

I’ve washed out hundreds of frac tanks back when I was in the oilfield. No idea what exactly the tanks you’re looking at but probably pretty similar. Sounds like you’ve got a good handle on it so far.

Profitable? Absolutely. Crappy, grungy work with a very realistic threat of danger/death with the stuff that gets stored in those frac tanks. Always, always, always have a sniffer and wear it below your neck line. Most of the time we were worried about H2S which is a heavy gas that collects in the lower areas of confined spaces. Spare no expense on sniffers. It may very well save your life.

First things first. Use all the PPE. There’s no such thing as going overboard and it sounds like you already know that.

Second most important thing to remember is that when doing work like this YOU OWN THE JOB SITE. I don’t care if Jesus himself walks up and wants to have a two minute conversation with you where he’s giving tomorrow’s lottery numbers. Your attention stays on the job 100% of the time. You don’t let people walk through your job site. You don’t let people stop and talk. Nothing. One minute of inattention could cost someone dearly.

Seriously, when you start working LOCK IT DOWN.

Anywho :smiling_face:

For us, we didn’t get a lot of calls for tank cleaning specifically though there were some. It was typically one of those “well, since you’re here” type things and all of our crews were CS trained. I believe we charged around $125/hour per machine and then an additional $25/hour per man with 4 man crews. Keep in mind, those prices were nearly a decade ago. Work in rotations. Two guys on the trigger with one man resting and one man on “guard duty” aka he’s there in case people start dropping. I always ran 20 minute rotations when doing CS work. With a good crew you can definitely stretch that out a bit but people have a tendency to get edgy when they’re in tight spaces for too long and that limits their productivity.

Vac trucks are necessary. No getting around it, really. The frac tank drains are typically off the bottom by roughly a foot so you’re not squeegeeing the muck to the drain and even if you could you can’t let it hit the ground.

You can rent a vac truck like you mentioned but I would urge you to familiarize yourself with how to operate the vac truck yourself as well. Simple remote systems and it is ideal to have a guy in the tank that can run the controls as they do the work.
You’ll go deaf if you run that vac truck wide open the whole time you’re in there. With a guy inside running the remote he can shut it down and fire it up when desired.

Do as much work as physically possible from outside the tank. Use long extensions. Suck it down to below boot level, get in there and turn it into a slurry with turbo nozzles, and shove the suction pipe in a corner because they will jump around as the suction comes on and goes off. Put your foot on the pipe before turning on to help keep it from whipping around and hurting someone. Again, incredibly loud. Wear ear plugs. Also, ear plugs help keep the brain eating amoebas away.

Keep plenty of squeegees and replacement handles on the trailer. They break. All the time. I know what you’re thinking–just swap the wood handle out for metal. A) it’s heavier and B) too dang slick. Wood is best but just have to replace handles often.

Radios are pretty critical for this type of work. If you ever lose or break a vac truck remote it will essentially shut you down if you don’t have radios. You can operate the truck from the control panel onboard but with the noise and being parked away from the work area, you’re SOL without walkie talkies.

Magnetic mechanics work lights. Buy 'em. Inside metal tanks you can slap them on the walls or ceiling and actually see what you’re doing. Wish those were around back in my day. We just had the “guard” holding a mag lite. Not great, Bob.

There is actually quite a market for stuff like this that 99% of washers do not do. Hydro excavation, car wash pit clean outs, grease traps, etc. I’ve considered offering hydro excavation but I have no interest in doing any more CS or really any industrial work again.

Hope that helps somehow!

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By the way, the brain eating amoebas was not a joke. My uncle worked for BNSF back in the 90’s and early 2000’s. He was cleaning a pit out one day and ended up contracting a flesh eating virus on his hands and face. Horrible stuff. Luckily, he lived but his hands were so far gone that he has one that essentially a crab’s claw and the other isn’t much better.

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See i have no problem being at heights but just reading this comment made me stressed. Confined spaces are not for me.

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This is exactly the answer I was hoping for, I figured someone had to have sone this before.

At my previous job I worked as a safety consultant. Most of my work was onsite coverage for maintenance outages at paper mills, steels mills, and all those fun places. I also had the opportunity to get fully trained on C-Space Rescue and High- angle rescue. I was sent out to a lot of jobs as an internal rescue attendant. So Air packs, respirators, rescue gear, and other equipment I’m pretty well versed. I am also fully trained in HAZWOPER. And teach these classes still for my old company when things get slow. (Actually just did a PRCS class today lol)

I have seen this process being done, but don’t know much about what equipments it requires to do, aside from vac trucks and some type of water jet or pressure washer.

Did you guys use regular washers, or something with much higher psi/gpm capability?

Also was hot water used a lot? From what I have seen it looks like it could help, but isn’t required.

I guess my plan would be to find some local municipalities/water authorities to network with and then try to expand from there.

I am fortunate to have some good connections because of my old jobs with a number of water companies and industrial facilities in the area, but I’d like to make sure I get the basics down, make some decent money, and start to get into the “big boys” once I have the process more established.

I appreciate your feedback a lot!! Ill likely be sending you some PMs as well if it’s okay with you?

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You’re the safety man? I used to love watching guys scatter like cockroaches when your truck pulled on location.

Our rigs had two 6gpm hot water machines per trailer so that’s what we used 99% of the time. The vac trucks we had also had pressure washers on them but they’re like 20gpm and, being on oilfield locations, water is not endless so we didn’t use them very much. Also, you have to be a straight up hoss to hold onto that wand. I remember most of our guys pointing the gun down into the pit and then laying on top of it just to be able to control it. Really, it’s overkill for most jobs but when you need it–you need it.

Feel free to PM me if you have questions. I’d be glad to help any way I can.

Oh, yes, hot water was used nearly all the time. It helps with just about every task. In drilling, there are two types of “mud” aka lubricant that is pumped into the hole to lubricate the bit and flush out the millings. One type is water based and the other is oil based. Water based is significantly easier to clean up and we’d still use hot water. Oil based drilling mud is made of the devil and you might as well pee up a rope if you don’t have hot water.

That’s good to know. I spent a week on some natural gas pads in the northern region of Pennsylvania, pretty cool process to see start to finish. From my understanding that industry (in PA) has slowed down since it’s initial boom in the 2000s, since then a lot of it shifted to West Virginia for “wet” gas. From some folks I’ve talked to it sounds like it is expected to return once that boom slows down and natural gas prices increase in the coming years.

Yeah being the safety guy, people tend to disappear lol. It was nice because I was more boots on the ground getting guys what they need and helping with lock outs and mainly watching there backs, cause there’s 1000 or more ways to be killed in those places. I too would always be on the lookout for the “corporate” or the plant safety guys.

That’s good to know regarding hot water. I currently have an 8 and 5.5 and will be adding hot water to both soon. My big concern was weather or not I could do this type of work with my current setup and some more modifications.

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With your current equipment you’d be set up pretty well for that type of work. You can definitely go the add-on hotbox route but you’ll need to be sure that your current machines can actually support that. Can’t just slap a hotbox on any of 8gpm machine. It will need to have a charging system capable of running the heater and not depleting the battery. A lot of pre-built units like Pressure Pro and others make come with the little 15 or 17 amp charging system. It puts out that amount when starting but then drops the power output to whatever is needed to keep the machine running (usually just a few amps). You can always run your serial numbers to find out what exactly you have.

Thanks, I’ll check out my 8, may have to break out my voltmeter and do some testing.

I appreciate all the feedback you offered on this topic!

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Or buy a generator

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Yes, that’s probably best if you don’t have the larger charging system. Only downside is another fuel tank to refill but that’s no big deal. Also nice to have a way to run other stuff.

How did you guys typically get the vac trucks? Did your company own them, rentals, other companies?

  • I know there are a ton of companies around here that have them, so I don’t think contracting that out would be too difficult.

Once the truck was full, would you just reverse flow and pump the slurry into a temporary holding tank for the client’s waste hauler to transport?

We had our own vac trucks. They were Mud Dog trucks. Check em out sometime. Pretty sweet rigs.

It depends on what we were cleaning out, really. If it was water based drilling mud we would just haul it to a farm where you would open the valve and drive along slowly to spread it out evenly on the ground.

Oil based had to be hauled off where it would be processed down.

Gray water, black water, etc will definitely have to be disposed of appropriately according to your local laws but it shouldn’t be hard to find where those places are around you. Could probably ask your garbage man where they haul their waste liquids and start there.

If you’re serious about getting into these services, the absolute first thing you should do is check with your insurance agent. Wouldn’t surprise me to find that the insurance rates on stuff like that is astronomical.

Good to know,

Yeah I was thinking about the insurance side of it as well, probably would cost an arm and a leg.

Plus, all of the additional gear that will be required to do entries (Gas meter, rescue winch, Good radios, blower fans, Tychems, Respirators, etc.) that alone is a hefty bill.

Like I said, not going to jump into this anytime soon, hell it’s just me and one part-time helper, but want to continue to do more research.

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