What’s everyone using for fall protection? Permentant anchors?
A harness and lanyard
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What are you anchoring to? Installing a permentant hook? Or something else ?
Sometimes we pay roofer to install anchors. Most of the time there is something for us to anchor to . Total honesty it’s not always an OSHA approved anchor.
This is just an example. I would never trust a $100 harness I think mine were closer to $400 and they have expectations dates on them as well
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Just curious…been reading a lot on OSHA requirements for working on a roof and it’s prettyy strict.
Must have safety harness
Lower pitched roofs you can get away with a “safety monitor” but must have a distinct safety line 6 feet from roofs edge or 10 feet if operating equipment. I doubt many people are installing roof anchors for a 20 gutter blow out and it’s pretty hard to blow gutters out from 10 feet from the roof edge.
My only point is that if it’s me doing the work, idc…but once you have a team of multiple employees OSHA laws become more important to follow. Gutter clean outs and small roof cleaning jobs become more of a liability then anything.
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I’m definitely not the perfect example of OSHA . I only use harness on 3 story roofs or ones I’m concerned about. I’m also the only person that has roof exposure I have one full time employee and one part time . I really can’t remember any time they had roof exposure. Mainly because I couldn’t afford the WC if they did . And most of the time I’m using a harness is because it’s required by either the hoa or management company. If they seen me up on a roof without one they would tell me to leave. That’s also how we get them to pay a roofer to install anchors if there is none. In my state only roofers can install those.
I read through most of it. Here’s the house they were working on, according to google maps:
From what a lot of people have said here, this roof would be “easily walkable”. Well apparently, not according to OSHA. At least not without fall protection.
I also found it interesting that they were cited for working too close to the power line (less than 4 feet). I personally wouldn’t have given it much thought; just would’ve been careful not to get with two feet or so. If it was a larger commercial power supply, I’d definitely keep more distance.
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It was my last job of the year. I was trying to get to my 4 months off. I wouldn’t do that many in a day again.
After spending hours of reading into the actual OSHA guidelines from working on roofs we will no longer be doing gutter cleaning. Other then walking roofs and blowing them out gutter cleaning is a PITA and to me a waste of time.
Residential roof cleaning- For now on we will always have a safety on the roof to ensure the person applying the solution never comes within 10 feet of the roofs edge.
High pitch roofs will be done from a ladder at the gutter line for now on (even if walkable)
Commercial roofs - will for now on always have a roofing contractor go install anchors for us.
Not worth not being I’m compliance and putting employees safety at risk. Even if it will cost us money.
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I’m glad someone else understands the safety angle. If it’s a new to us property that we are cleaning gutters on, I go up and install anchors. I don’t do commercial properties unless we get them for at least 2 years. Some I’ve had for 20 years. Owner is not bound by OSHA so I install the anchors. Everyone else is roped.
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Have you had any issues with installing anchors? I’ll have to check my state codes to see if I can or not…or if it has to be a roofer
The OSHA guy argues with me about that every time he calls. I say I’m exempt he says no I’m not . I tell him he needs to double check the laws and call me back. He never does. Happens every year
Your lucky to have maintenance contracts were your at . There is no such thing down here . Even on commercial properties like Walmart’s and fast food gas even stations are verbal contracts but no guarantee they can decide not to have the service at any time
I don’t do written contracts. I work with the same management companies all the time. As long as they manage a property, I keep the property.
NC is a right to work state. Not sure if that has anything to do with it. Never really asked. I just install them.
I’m up to 4 monthly maintenance contracts at the moment and in a year of doing them they’re my favorite, but If someone told me I couldn’t do them I’d move tomorrow. Is that a state law???
Its funny all the guys that move here from up north to start laws services says it’s the customers that want the contracts up there yet down here it doesn’t matter how much you’ll knock of the bill for something in writing it’s just not going to happen very often
I’ve found the best thing I can do is keep a good relationship with my customers and managers and hoa’s and I have little to worry about. But a guarantee maintenance schedule would be nice
I need to get me a few monthly contracts…seems like paradise in the form of a guaranteed check in the mailbox each month!
No it’s not a law. Florida is a melting pot of people moving in then back out again. It creates a lot of distrust and problems. People here are just scared of contracts and I can’t blame them . The general Workmanship of contractor in FL is probably some of the worst in the country. The words general contractor here translates to con artists in most people’s minds . It’s ridiculous the amount of people that get screwed by just about everyone they hire.
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