Fallout thread and lots of help thanks guys

Very true. I’m usually all for getting the straight chemical components instead of overpriced, diluted mixes.

But from what I’ve read about OneRestore, they’ve done a lot more than just dilute hydrochloric and add some soap. Apparently, there are buffering agents they’ve added to make it safer to use on a variety of surfaces, that hydrochloric by itself (even at the same dilutions) would not be safe on.

@CaCO3Girl might be able to enlighten us on the topic.

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What is that? Lol. I’m in the boonies. We have HomeDepots, and dollar stores :smirk:

Thanks for the call out. So, the thing with Hydrochloric acid is that there is a company that has a patent on making it into an almost safe urea hydrochloride, or as they say “an organic salt”. It is encapsulated hydrochloric acid that doesn’t fume and has the acid characteristics of HCl, but not as harmful.

Us chemists have ways of hiding information on the SDS’s but most of us can interpret what the others have done…if they are truthful on the SDS, which they should be by law. I’d like to point out that we only have to list dangerous things at greater than 1%, unless it’s a carcinogen in which case it’s 0.1%. My point is that you can have HCl in a formula and not list it if it’s at 0.9999%…you can include a whole lot of dangerous stuff at 0.9999%.

Interesting loophole huh?

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So what’s your take on OneRestore?

http://www.eacochem.com/docs/sds2016/SDS_ONERESTORE.pdf

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May have pocket flagged someone sorry if I did I closed the box but it may have happened.

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That it’s likely to be the urea hydrochloride, as I said above.

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I tried One Restore years ago & it wouldn’t touch secondary efflo & dilute Hydrochloric melted it off

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You really hate dawn​:joy::joy: dont dis the dawn.

I’ll bet IBS just got a cold chill down his spine :laughing:

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Urea Hydrochloride is “safer” than straight up JCL, even the diluted HCl.

It can actually ship in small containers as non-hazmat, so that is a big bonus.

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Hey man, good video, don’t give up. It can be frustrating in the beginning testing mixes and what works for you. Continue asking for help and righting down the mixes you currently use and adjust accordingly.

I have been in the same boat as you, money tied up, misuse or weak mixture of chemicals. It happens. Just learn from it and don’t give up.

Here’s a recent fallout restoration I did. This one required a bit of brushing after I xjetted on the OneRestore full strength. So OneRestore is not a sure-fire spray and rinse solution for fallout.

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Well put sir. Very well put. Much respect :fist:t5:!

How did your 2019 season go? I’m also in the Ottawa area. Maybe a week to go?

Hello. Could you please re-upload the video so us newbs can see? Thank you very much

What are you wanting to see?

Squid’s video shows how to clean it in post #110 above.

Thanks. I did not make it that far down. Just the initial that video that kicked this huge thread off. Squid’s video was very helpful though and I now know about Fallout. It’s just nice for us newbs that are searching through the forums to be able to see the pics/videos that the thread’s are talking about. Have a good one.

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You’ll really thank them once you first encounter it. You won’t have pulled out your hair and you’ll know how to proceed.

I did my first commercial building which was next to a busy street. It had fallout all over two sides of it–top to bottom. I had to scrub every inch of vinyl on those two sides. Props to @marinegrunt for helping me know best how to attack it.

I made a video. I’ll put it up at some point.

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@qons any update on this chief?

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This was brutal. A lot of scrubbing. I didn’t have the best degreaser and I paid the price in time.

BEFORE

MIDDLE TWO SLOTS CLEANED

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