Concrete Damage

LOL, no problem. A lot of that going on these days, even on this forum.

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@Racer Right!? I learned yesterday rain will even out etching over 6 months or so!!! (Sarcasm)

*spoiler alert :rotating_light: : it will not. If it did it would take many many many decades.

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I know itā€™s easy to get defensive, but know this forum is not for those that are thin skinned. @Racer has more knowledge than I, or most guys here, could hope to accumulate in our entire washing careers. Take his advice with as much weight as possible, you canā€™t go wrong with that. If I say something and he says something different always go with what he said.

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About a year old.

To my mentor @Racer and others, allow me to apologize for my ā€œdisinformationā€ and explain myself:

  1. No, the rain will not remove the etching in 6 months but over time the rain will certainly remove the entire top finish layer. The etching that I referred to was minimal, and I needed to allay his concerns. I had a $1400 check to collect and didnā€™t want that little bit of etching to stand in the way of collecting for an otherwise miracle in cleaning. NOW, itā€™s been about six months since this event and I doubt seriously if that etching is still visible. Should someone share in this thread a way to erase any etching still visible, Iā€™ll go back to the fellowā€™s house and take the picture, and an after picture if the etching IS still visible.

  2. Increasing the last set of numbers on the SC tips increases the size of the aperture through which the water flows, thereby reducing the pressure of the water beyond that tiny hole and when it hits the concrete.

AMEN

I disagree. Iā€™ve seen the rain remove the finish layer in a matter of less than two years in this area, but if Iā€™m wrong I certainly stand corrected.

Youā€™re saying rain will take the cream off a driveway in 2 years? I can see a constant hammer from no gutters making a difference in 2 years but not to an entire driveway.

My point is you clearly told him what he wanted to hear or what sounded good to take his money. By your own statement. I disagree with that.

I do think there are ways to reduce etching by blending it with an acid etching basically. But telling a customer the rain will even it out? Iā€™m sorry but I donā€™t find that to be accurate.

Yes some concrete is poured differently than others, bad pours exist, as do substandard material.

It sounds like the concrete was new and had a soft cream layer that wasnā€™t ready for the level of pressure applied. I wasnā€™t there and I donā€™t know. Nor have you posted pictures of it.

My main point is etching someoneā€™s driveway (any amount of etching) and saying the rain will even it out is not sound advice.

Judge not, lest ye be judged. The great thing about being an adult is that we can agree to disagree. The one thing this thread HAS done is motivate me to go look at the driveway and fix it if itā€™s still there. I donā€™t know why I didnā€™t think of muriatic acid as a possible equalizer, and MOST CERTAINLY faster and more effective than rain!

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George seriously. Thatā€™s a bad defense for saying something I disagree with. I think youā€™re passionate about this industry and you like to help others. In that instance it sounded bad. You confirmed my thoughts by your own statement

Iā€™m sure you can see why I disagree with you. Regardless. Happy Holidays in VA brother.

I just spoke with the homeowner who said, ā€œyea, I think theyā€™re goneā€, and when I asked him to take a picture he replied that there are just too many leaves. We really killed it at his tarnished home, removing tons of algae on his brick (especially around his overworked gutters and even his colossal chimney), rust stains that were ubiquitous across fence AND brick, windows cleaned outside, a housewash, and surface cleaning driveway and walkway. Not only did the surface cleaning amount to a small percentage of the job, but I was pretty certain that the etchings would disappear within the 6-9 months. His reply just now confirms my expectations. Although Iā€™ve every reason to believe that close scrutiny would discover remnants of that etching, not only could the etchings not be seen by the customer but the customer forgot about the etching altogether.

Peace out. (Oh, and Happy Holidays to you and the entire PWR community.)

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Did the etching disappear because of the dirt buildup or because the concrete levels itself were evened out to a smooth gradient. The right way is concrete evening out not dirt filling the level difference causing the smooth transition. If thatā€™s how it was done then the next clean would show the etching all over again

I suspect exactly that. Next time, I will work on that small area with an acid that should even everything out.

Exactly what? I said 2 scenarios

If the dirt is what smoothed it out and made it ā€œdisappearā€ then that isnā€™t rightā€¦ Hiding damage. Needs to be fixed

Do you know the difference between a good haircut and a bad one? Two weeks. Time will even heal a deck thatā€™s been marked up by starts and stops by an inexperienced operator, and that usually takes 3-6 months.

Are you talking about a composite deck? If your talking about wood I would disagree. Once you remove wood from a deck it will not come back, it is gone. If you are talking about blending damage so it is less noticeable, that is a different story. That would be more like feathering chipped paint.

Not trying to get into an argument, it might just be choice of words.

A ruined deck is a ruined deck, time wonā€™t fix it, anymore than it will fix concrete

Nothingā€™s been ruined here William

Iā€™m talking about start and stop marks. They donā€™t go away. Thatā€™s pretty much permanent unless sanded down to blend.

This thread needs deleted at this point as it could cost someone who doesnā€™t know better.

Etched concrete does not fix itself.

Damaged wood does not fix itself.

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False. The damage will still be there years later.