3.5 to 8 GPM - Commercial flatwork cleaning speed increase?

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Iā€™m in no way being condescending, but Iā€™d love to see video of a 36ā€ cleaning quickly with 8 gpm.

Or at least learn more about what youā€™re doing pre- and post. Hot water all the time Iā€™m assuming since you mentioned grease? What nozzles are you using? Iā€™d love to be able to run a 36ā€ quickly and might give a non-essential toe for it if thatā€™s the deal.

Iā€™d high five a stranger if I could get a 28ā€ to run quickly.

I believe the last nozzles I picked up for it were 2504.5. I do run a lot of hot water. We really only pre treat with soap on heavily soiled areas, certain store entrances, spills, and greasy service areas. We do not normally pre treat general sidewalk areas which is the majority of what I do.

Again, I think it has to do with where you are and what you are working on. I am doing large commercial shopping centers that we service anywhere from monthly to quarterly. Iā€™m in NM so we donā€™t have stuff growing on the sidewalks, just dirt, spilled drinks, gum, etc.

I used to live in Florida, there is no way Iā€™d be able to get away with moving so quickly and minimal pre treatment dealing with the stuff that loves to grow in that humid environment. 36" would probably not work well down there on an 8 gpm machine. Iā€™d also be going through a ton of sh, I donā€™t even carry that on my trailer now.

I donā€™t seem to have any videos of the surface cleaner in action, but I did come across a few satisfying photos (they also kind of show what we are cleaning up). I donā€™t believe we have anymore pressure washing scheduled until the first week of next month, Iā€™ll try to remember to get a video when we knock out those accounts.

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So trueā€¦

Thanks. I know itā€™s different depending on your region, but like I said if I can get a 28ā€ to fly Iā€™ll be happy as a clam.

Hey there. I want to pick your brain for a minute of you donā€™t mind. I just picked up a bunch of commercial flat work. Mostly strip malls. Iā€™ve been ds degreaser. Then surface cleaning. Then rinsing. Do you usually just use soap? Iā€™ve been thinking that the degreaser might be over kill. Whatā€™s your process for commercial flat work?

My friend up in Charlotte area that does a ton of commercial flatwork that I help out occasionally has same machine I have and smallest surface cleaner he has is a 28" big guy. He also runs a 60" Sidewalk Solutions machine and a 48" WW. For example, using the 60 Sidewalk Solutions he cut 6 hours off one of his quarterly maintinence jobs. It all depends on your job youā€™re doing.

So I want to preface this with I am by no means an expert in chemicals. Some of the other guys on here can probably give you more qualified answers. With that being said I have tried EBC, Dragon Juice, etc., so I can speak to my experience.

My simple short answer is thisā€¦ donā€™t throw more chemicals and work at it than it takes to get the flatwork clean. You need to test and see what the least you can do is to get the desired result (making sure that it looks as good as it can). It will often not only vary from property to property, but also on different parts of the property.

You may be over doing it using degreaser everywhere.

So let me tell you what we doā€¦

We do everything from strip malls to large outdoor shopping complexes. Depending on the property, and the specific part of the property, our cleaning technique will range from pre treating, hot water, surface cleaner, and rinsing, to simply rinsing down the flatwork with cold water. It just depends.

For the first service we generally do a full heavy duty cleaning, soap / degreaser, hot water, etc. After the first service it all depends on how dirty it is getting.

After the first service we normally pre treat heavily trafficked entrance areas, around restaurants, and almost always in back service areas. I find that often there is no need to pretreat general sidewalk areas.

The main chemical I use is a soap made by a local company. It is actually a car wash pre soak, but also works for pressure washing applications. It does have some degreasing properties as well (and it is corrosive in itā€™s undiluted form). From my experience I get about the same results that I got with EBC and some of the other brand names. The difference is that 5 gallons of this costs me $45 and I dilute it anywhere from 90:1 to 10:1 depending on the job. I get an average of 300 gallons of finished product for $45.

Hope that helps.

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Sure does. Thanks for the info

Heā€™s able to run a 60" surface cleaner off of an 8gpm machine? I wouldnā€™t even think it would turn lol.