Would anyone care to share their experience or suggestions for these EaCo Chem products used in tandem with one another?
I have a house I’m cleaning that needs severe vinyl oxidation removal and I’ve done the whole Cleansol BC double application before, but I’ve been encouraged by several in the industry to try the HD Britenol in conjunction with it. It’s my understanding that HD Britenol is to be applied first, dwell, then either apply a second coat or move right into Cleansol BC application, dwell, then rinse. My goal is to remove mildew, pollen, dust, bird droppings (usual housewash stuff as far as I’m concerned) and the oxidation without having to brush it if I can help it.
Just take them dollars to Waffle House. There, you will find the answers.
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Why do you want to add acid to sodium hydroxide? I get that some things release off vinyl with acids faster than other chems, but the sodium hydroxide (2 coats) has always removed the layers, but sometimes there is light brushing to do. People say they see pink when it changes, I have never seen it change color and I have looked. I keep my timer on for the dwell times too. I bought someone else’s version of cleansol BC to compare and contrast it, but haven’t used it yet this year.
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I tried the two EaCo Chem chemical process and ended up scrapping that idea. I reverted back to using my normal HW mix to do the standard cleaning then went back and applied the Cleansol BC twice for oxidation removal before a final rinse down.
To be fair, I can’t state that I followed the HD Britenol directions to a “T” because they are pretty vague, allowing you to widely vary your mix ratio as needed. Never experimenting with it before I just mixed a batch up, and downstreamed it. It cleaned well enough, but not any quicker or better in my opinion than my normal HW mix does, or at least not at this property. The smell was pungent and not as pleasant as I was hoping for.
As for the Cleansol BC and oxidation removal, it did the trick, but I did have to apply medium pressure on siding to knock it all off. I used the same white tip I typically use to cut in my concrete areas or wooden deck/fence areas.
I certainly saw the pink when rinsing the siding. During second application of Cleansol BC I could see whiteish pigments running down the vinyl siding, but the pink was very obvious after the second dwell time and pressure was applied. Siding was a grey/brown color so it was interesting to see the pink/salmon color coming off.
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Interesting. It has worked for me, but I have never seen pink. When I did an aluminum house last year for the painter I saw waves of white water coming off, and when we did the shutters (he helped out) nothing but red (color of shutters). I did one side of a tan house last year, just saw tan, and the gray one I did last year, just greyish water. I followed their directions to the letter. I just don’t get why some sections come out spotless and other places it like hangs on in sections. Really easy to see the difference once it starts getting the oxidation off. I think racer said he uses aluminum brightener or something for $20 a jug, don’t quote me, I would have to reread his post. That guy is a wealth of information, whish I would have had him on a job I did today. Wound up hand brushing a log home with two porches. My fat but is smoked. SH streaked it, log wash still required hand brushing. What a PITA.
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If you were going to have to do that, use pressure, could have saved yourself the money of the Cleansol. Next time you get one bad on a side, try just using you’re regular hw, then DS a couple of coats of the Britenol with about 5min dwell time in between of it, then rinse.
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$8, lol
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How do you dilute it? Cup per gallon? I want to try it out.
Depends on what I’m doing with it. For fallout and oxidation just DS 2 coats. Heavy mud on vinyl I just shoot it on straight or slightly diluted. Most the time I don’t bother diluting it’s so cheap
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Sorry, do you avoid the windows or is the acid so diluted that it doesn’t matter. I know you are a pro and wouldn’t let it dry on there and probably have quick dwell and rinse times in hot sunny conditions. Just curious, don’t want to experiment on a customer’s house.
I spray it on glass a lot if cleaning window frames or if DS on a house, but it’s diluted a lot by then on the DS, and I make sure it doesn’t even think about drying and rinse the windows particularly well. Most acids won’t hurt glass as long as it doesn’t dry. Look at NMD40, at the rec 4-1 dilution, it’s still nasty stuff, and you can spray it on glass to dissolve mortar.
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Rick, if you don’t mind. Cleansol BC states to pre wet the home, not soak it, prior to application. I am assuming they state this to cool the surface and possibly keep streaking down. Are you doing this too before removing oxidation with aluminum brightener?
Grabbed some aluminum brightener for about 16 bucks. Couldn’t find it at your $8 cost. I do have some stuff with d limonene (however you spell it) on backup if this doesn’t seem to work.
Not usually because I’m DS it. Maybe would if it was real hot on one side. Just make sure to apply from bottom up when using the acid. But I can do a whole side of house in a few minutes, wait about 5 and hit it again. I don’t give it a slight chance of drying.
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Thank you. Do you wind up brushing? I have almost always wound up brushing with Cleansol BC. Seems like it missed spots, even though I apply it liberally and always from bottom to top. It has a lot of soap in it so it is easy to track on the siding.
The house I am doing next week, it is one of those that the shutter colors are running down the side of the house and the siding is super chalky.
Appreciate your feedback.
Brushes and I don’t get along. Try to rarely use. That paint from those shutters can be a real pita. Might want to carry some F9 with you.
Thank you again. TO be honest, I chickened out using it on a customer’s house. I need to experiment elsewhere first. I did use the dlimonene stuff, didn’t care for it. Maybe I mixed it too weak before I DS. Wound up brushing and I applied it several times. One of the crazy days when everything went wrong as I was just trying to get the steps done. Figured if I used it that would go wrong too.
I get these a lot, do risers and corners with turbo, then SC the rest. I didn’t get a true before pic, this had already been rinsed down twice. No cream on it, it was homeowner PW about 9 years ago.
Here is a before of one of the shutters, i can’t show the after as I took it as a .mov and I don’t have a converter to make it a jpg for posting. It is a dark brown when deoxidized. Looked orange from the road.
Walk turned out nice.
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