Silane/siloxane Sealer Removal Help

I’ve been using it for years. Unfortunately it has been outlawed in FL a few months ago.
I was the only thing that would remove sealer with one coat . Now I’m stuck with the eco friendly stuff.

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a combination of phosphoric and hydrofluoric

Believe me I’m no more happy than you. I get upset woodworking customers every week since we stopped selling it. The company line is that the new formula is just as good… my own testing has not panned out the same as corporate…

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I’m having to double the cost of stripping jobs because it takes twice as many product and twice as much work. When you figure $3-$4sqft to strip and reseal your getting out of most people’s budget. And coming close to the cost of replacing the pavers

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@DisplacedTexan. Thanks for the welcome, looks like others may not feel the same way as you…
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@Dirtyboy
I tried, but the surface was so porous. There was absolutely nothing to wipe up.
I called tech support and told them of my experience and they said keep applying it… They said you may need 3, 4 or 5 coats to get the correct “look”.

@Firefighter4hire
A few days between each… It has now been over year since I did this. Just seems to look worse and worse

@florida_condo_cleani
Nope! just wanted to do it myself and was told by my neighbor that it worked great for him on his entry way porch. he was the one who recommended that product (which used to be made by Dupont)

How long did you wait in between coats

@florida_condo_cleani
sorry, but this thread that began with @MDA1775 (who I believe was also a DYIer) posting an issue very similar to my own which came to me via a google search. Naturally, I clicked on it and read all the very nice help they were offered by the other members.
Did not see anything about this being off limits to residential consumers.
Sorry to have offended you.

@florida_condo_cleani

Looks like I missed the cutoff date for this product being sold to end consumers by a week!
I guess this means only a commercial users can procure it?

Due to recent EPA regulations regarding methylene chloride paint strippers, availability of Dad’s Paint, Stain & Varnish Removers may be limited. For information regarding the availability of Dad’s please call 260-484-2000, and ask for customer service.

Currently, consumer sales are allowed until November 22nd, 2019. After that date, sales to consumers is prohibited.

Commercial users may still purchase Dad’s removers after the effective date, check with customer service for more information.

@MDA1775

Didn’t i read this thread correctly that @CaCO3Girl recommend you use Flood Pro Series Wood Stripper,

Did that work for you?

Thanks for the link amigo!

Sorry, been busy.

  1. I truly dislike siloxanes, things only go right 20% of the time. Sure, they last longer, but for 80% of the people the cost is too high.

  2. Yes, I think Flood will work

  3. I told y’all methylene chloride was being banned in paint strippers back in July, but, what I didn’t tell you is that you can likely still purchase methylene chloride, it’s just not allowed to be in a paint stripper that is sold as a paint stripper…did everyone follow that? Lol! This is a game we often have to play in California. We label things up as an electrical contact cleaner, but really it’s a heavy duty degreaser that we aren’t allowed to sell as a degreaser due to the VOC’s being too high…so we call it something else that has a higher VOC limit and spread the word about what the real application is.

  4. Stay away from aluminum brighteners, the true AB’s are made with hydrofluoric and that stuff is just dangerous.

Sorry I missed the @ symbol a day ago, feel free to follow up with me with another @ symbol :slight_smile:

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Thanks so much @CaCO3Girl!

  1. I can’t find methylene chloride anywhere.
  2. great, then I will try Flood Pro Series Wood Stripper … that I can get from PPG store down the street.

Did you see the additional pictures I posted of having treated a portion of the area with lye (Sodium Hydroxide)… could that have left the white drip marks? could that damage the flagstone?

Yes, it could have damaged the flag stone. Clean up the siloxane, then see what you have after it dries. If it did damage the stone you can use an acid product to strip off the top layer. You should be able to get past the damage.

Good luck

I planned on ordering some . Could you tell me the name of the suspension agent (gel) that is mixed with . Please and thank you

You’re welcome Ron Swanson…lol

Thank you very much! I will keep you posted

That what is mixed with?

I’m not a DIY’er. Lol Have a good Thanksgiving.

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