Plus you really don’t need a lot of soap at all. I used 1 oz then dropped it to half an ounce per gallon of mix that I DS 10:1. If I use let’s say 5 gallons of mix on a house wash and charge $300, that $1.00 of soap just gave me $299.00 profit… use the whole gallon? Shooooot.
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I like to see suds too but it takes longer to rinse and will be a pain in the neck getting it out from the cracks of Windows. It will stay in the cracks and run down the window while it’s drying leaving streaky, hazy windows. Use very little surfactant.
Delivered Elemonator runs me .16/oz. I like to see some suds so maybe 1.25oz per/ gal average mix. Average hw is 8 gal so less than 1.50 per house. The A&H will work fine but as Steve says, you need to use all your mix pretty quick. I 've never really used the A&H for houses, mainly for roofs in the past and it’s fine.
Elemonator is cheap for the amount of money it will bring you. One gallon generates me well over $10,000 in house washes, but I only use about .4 oz per gallon of mix cuz I feel like I can rinse quicker the less I use.
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That’s what I don’t understand. My system I posted about a couple weeks ago that everyone made fun of and gave me a hard time about only uses 1.5-2 gallons and I can clean a house in 1-1.5 hours or less. I couldn’t imagine needing 8 gallons of cleaner. I make over $12k on a gallon of elemomator and my system cost $200.
Why not buy your surfactant there, too?
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Brother. Your system is also a hunk of crap in any professional sense. I’d rather use 8 gallons and it take 15 mins than 2 and it take an hour
Good for you for making 12k out of your mother’s Tahoe but it ain’t for me
If your system is legit…it’s still a single-purpose piece of machinery. Our machines can be used to clean a variety of surfaces…not just siding.
Plus, nobody wants to have to lug that thing from the trailer to the house.
I’m pretty sure the 8 gallons of mix that Rick is talking about is for a very large house. Average size house you might go through 3-4 gallons of mix. We pass the charge of any chems we use onto the customer so it really doesn’t matter how much it takes.
I don’t know if your system is any good or not. You only posted a a general description, no details, no photos, but lots of claims about how great it is. You asked for feedback, but feedback on what? You have yet to offer a shred of evidence that your design even does what you claim. What did you expect?
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What’s the reason for being a ■■■■? My mother’s Tahoe? I joined this forum to try and learn more, but quickly found that a lot guys in here are just cocky assholes to people they don’t even know. I have the feeling guys like you probably only have a GED at best and start making a little money and think your now better than people. It takes a pretty small person to be a jerk online to people you don’t even know.
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It’s not that we are jerks. You have proven yourself to be a liar, you use foul language and break the rules by doing so, you belittle people with your GED comments, and basically come across as someone that no one here would care to share a cup of coffee with. Your options are to change your attitude, leave or keep you attitude and keep posting anyway and accept whatever is dished your way.
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Not a good response. Most posters here have been here 3+ years. If you don’t like the responses feel free to leave. If you want to stay grow a thick skin and set back a bit and learn.
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My previous comment was hardly serious, you really shouldn’t take what people say on the internet to heart.
In actuality, if you want to be respected here, don’t try to force your method of cleaning on us and don’t ask for opinions on your system (without even showing us it) and get offended when we identify its shortcomings.
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I like Cherry Snotmenade, but I’d use whatever you are comfortable with. There are so many challenges to growing a business that I don’t think you should stress over the cost of surfactant, but that’s just my .02.
If I include shipping it costs me about .15 cents an ounce for Snotmenade. Dollar store laundry detergent costs what, 1.5 cents per ounce-ish. I know for a 25 gallon batch for my 12v I’m using $3.75 of Snotmenade. For the dollar store soap I’d use about 75 cents of soap.
Because it’s consistent for me, I am totally okay with spending the $3 more per job for Snotmenade… I’ll skip eating out once a week and make it back. 
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In your original thread about your “invention” most of us spent a lot of time replying to you trying to explain why most professionals wouldn’t use your system. You just got upset because we didn’t tell you what you wanted to hear. That doesn’t make us cocky jerks. You were the one being a cocky jerk because you didn’t like what we had to say about your system.
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You could always make your own! Might need a chemist friend to check your work, but it looks like most bleach-stable surfactants are based off of either alkyl dimethylamine-oxide (elemonator uses this) or lauryl-dimethylamine oxide. Google says the lauryl one is foamier, it’s used in shampoos and stuff.
So yeah, grab a bunch of bulk chems and fragrances from Alibaba, whip it all up and have a chemist check it for ya. I bet you’d even be able to beat $.05/oz!
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Man I don’t know how much cheaper people can get lol. We’re talking surfactant here. The customer pays for these consumables, price it into the estimate and use the best available.
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I 100% agree! If someone is worried about the expense of a required product, it’s because their pricing structure is wrong. I was just stoking the flame of ingenuity lol. I also have a bad habit of thinking “I bet I could make that myself”.
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Arms and Hammer is only a cup per 5gl bucket, use to mask the smell of bleach.
