Nice work as usual!
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If you are set on painting and donāt like working with oil stains, a solid stain is almost identical to a gallon of water based latex paint when you open the can and start applying it. As it wears it will maybe peel here or there instead of chipping off. In future, since itās solid stain, you can touch up where needed and it will still match up ok. It will wear better than paint in my opinion on a deck.
If you do go stain and want to match old and new, oil based semi solid covers great, has so much colorant it will look all the same and even on bare wood and stained wood and old wood and new wood, it will all match, and looks better than solid stain I think, and probably last longer. It can be touched up too.
A main factor is that oil based is gonna be smelly and more toxic to work with.
That looks awesome!
A solid water-based stain can both chip and peel.
This is not true. If you do any touch-up down the road, you will notice.
You are right. You should put stain on a deck not paint.
thanks for helping straighten that out more clear, sorry for any innacuracies.
Say qon, maybe you see this, if trying to avoid oils, and you had to pick a water based for deck or fence, is there one you recommend? I applied oils long time but I am gonna stop, vocās in 500ās Iām done.
what you think of sherwin williams woodscapes semi trans for fence?
and decks, is there a half way decent water based that wonāt peel or chip off, not on new wood, but for older more porous cedar wood lets say. I donāt know if itās cool to ask that here hijack thread,
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There is many oil based that donāt have 500 voc. Wood Defender is one of them
When I have to use waterbased it is only a solid. Duckback 9600 series is the best (sherwin williams 9600 series is the same). If it isnāt that I use Flood Pro.
I think if a deck has oil-based stain on it, you should stick with that. Treat the customerās property like you want yours treated.
Oil is usually the best. So donāt switch to water because you canāt handle it. If you canāt handle it, pass those decks on to someone else. And actually just wear a respirator/ppe and youāll be fine.
@SurfaceTherapy is a wood guru and knows his stuff. So try Wood Defender once and see if itās easier on the body.
And like Surface said, Sherwin Williams SuperDeck solid water-based is the way to go. Iāve had customers request Cabot, and Iāve used it a few times, and itās done well for me, too. But if Iām choosing water-based, itās Super Deck.
Plus Sherwin stands behind their products. Had one issue last year and they were all over it helping out. Cabot on the other hand, I have tried a few times to get one of their reps to contact me. I never have gotten a return call.
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Thanks qon. I tell them oil is better. I will continue to tell them that, but I will say I am switching to water based on fences. They can hire someone else if they want oil fence.
Sacrilegious to put water based on deck not sure what to do there. I try get out it pulls me back in.
Why do you want to put it on fences?
Peels and chips off, doesnāt look as good, harder application, more expensive.
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Thanks qons, after you mentioning sherwin wiliams, I asked customer if I could see fence from 3 1/2 years ago, was sherwin williams woodscapes? semi transparent water based. It has held up great. It also was nice to work with, was thick stuff, but it applied nicely and was super consistent looking.! I then went opened up commercial account at the sherwin williams near me. They said 40 instead of 60$.
Did you use Woodscapes? I didnāt think they made that for decks/fences anymore.
Hi, yes, I just went out to my truck to see the color charts I picked up sherwin williams this week, it is woodscapes. semi tranparent water based, what I put on that fence in pic
Ok, cool. I havenāt used Woodscapes since 1999. It was a rough summer that year. A story for another time.
But, youāre right, they still make it for vertical surfaces.
Fence looks really good.
What part of the country are you located?
thanks. I am in washington west side of cascades, washington state
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Youāre a little west of most of us. But I think thereās one or two guys in your state on here.
Keep up the reading!
