Dirty Brick, Sooty Chimneys

@squidskc
Brodie, M5 Xjet or original, and did you get the replacement proportioner or just eliminate altogether??

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M5. Iā€™ve never had one of the originals. Replacement proportioners are like $15-20. Youā€™ll want a spare set although we run two M5ā€™s 2-3x a week or more and neither of them have needed replacing. Of all the proportioners, if youā€™re downstreaming most of the time, youā€™ll use 2 proportioners or none at all.

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Suds donā€™t equal cleaning, though I like decent amount just so I know where Iā€™m at. Sell the mega crap machine on Craigslist and buy the m5 xjet, some decent soap and SH youā€™ll be fine. Your 4gpm even in straight blech, the injector will only pull about 1% assuming the ratio is about 10-1, which most are or somewhere in that vacinity. For stucco and special situations, youā€™re going to need a stronger mix. Only 3 ways to get, pump sprayer or roof system or xjet. Just have to use the right tools for the job. Without, can get done, but itā€™s often a struggle and much slower.

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I mean i stay pretty low key most of the time, but this is a joke right? ā€œCastigatedā€? Me politely suggesting you search the forums, and giving you a couple of words to use, is ā€œcastigatingā€?

I spent probably 15 minutes on a VERY busy morning (just finished 12 hours of fire hydrant rinsing by myself), to do some quick searches, and literally sourced 2 products for you (wanted to make sure i was giving you accurate information), and answered some of your questions you had raised. The proper response in that situation is to say ā€˜hey thanks manā€™, not to get huffy because i politely suggested that you search the forums.

Hereā€™s the thingā€¦ when you dont search, especially on basic questions, you are causing other people to take time out of their (busy) day to repeat something that has been written a dozen times over the years.

I mean poor @Racer has been summoned three times so far (4 now!), when he spoon fed you the good stuff in his first post. ā€œWhere do i source EBCā€? Comon man. Thatā€™s what Ask Jeeves is for!

And if you thought my earlier post was ā€˜castigatingā€™, well then i imagine you will be forwarding this post to homeland security. Look man, im not mad at you, but this aint a sunday school facebook group. Got to roll with it a little better. You should do what i doā€¦ each time before i hit the submit button, i say out loud to myself ā€œnow remember, you are pretty much an idiotā€. This keeps me grounded when IB calls me an idiotā€¦ because wellā€¦ i pretty much am. :upside_down_face:

Sorry, im a little more wound up than usual right now. As i was rolling up my last hose a little while ago, my left arm kept charlie horsing each time i raised itā€¦ im sure i gave the EMTā€™s on break a chuckle as I flailed my arm around a few times, trying to get it to work, before just grabbing all the hose and throwing it in the back of the truck.

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Rick, Iā€™ve been buying my bleach at the local pool supply house 4 gallons at the time. Until Brodieā€™s post about bleach differences 55gal to pool supply, I had no idea about that. I also didnā€™t realize that the XJet would get me higher concentrations of solution. (@squidskc Brodie alluded to that some time ago and may have even suggested that one could perform a roof cleaning with the XJet?) NOR did I know that Dawn would make rinsing a nightmare. I had that happen to me several weeks ago when I had to go back and rinse with a brush a customerā€™s home. In all fairness, I never expect the suds to clean. Their purpose is to hold the SH in suspension long enough to kill the organisms on the wall. DSing didnā€™t seem to suspend my solution(Elemonator and SH full strength), I kept adding more Elemonator and not seeing any noticeable difference. SO I 'll order an XJet this evening if it will suds the Elemonator and deliver a more concentrated solution. @tireshark 's suggestion that I buy a restoration product that only covers 150 to 200 square feet per gallon is cost prohibitive. Nonetheless, Iā€™m truly grateful for his help.

As for the soot on the chimney (@gbattle no way to pump up spray that height), I quoted a home for next week based upon what Iā€™d read here previously. Now Iā€™m discovering that there will be extra costs that I hadnā€™t factored in. Oh well, school ainā€™t always cheap, now is it? So Iā€™m toying with the idea of a trailer setup but wanted to wait til Spring. An XJet might obviate the current need for the delivery of a more concentrated solution. Ithink Iā€™ll try that airplane soot remover that @Justin_Treu found, and Iā€™ll report back my experience.
Thank you all, and weā€™ll pick this up with a successful ending when Iā€™ve solved this conundrum.

Guys keep up with the castigating :wink: if he gets mad enough and has enough acid trip flashbacks he wonā€™t respond to anyone and things will be far out and groovy again (sorry, trying for flashbacks again)

Scooby snack

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@Innocentbystander, I promised not to respond to your posts, and apologize in advance, but this is a good one. THANKS! Iā€™m giving this one a ā€œlike.ā€ Iā€™ve been clean for over thirteen years, and sometimes I wish for a good flashback. Just sayinā€™.

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This is a long threadā€¦ which can be summarised on one sentence:

ā€œBleach doesnā€™t clean sootā€¦ small Victorian children doā€

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UPDATE:

Now I understand the metaphorical crickets I heard when I asked about sooty chimneys. Tomorrow I will clean the chimney that is featured in a previous post, but this has been my experience:

@Innocentbystander was correct, my equipment sucked. I upgraded to the M5XJet, and that has made all the difference. my stream flows with much greater pressure and volume. Thanks to @squidskc!

I have cleaned two chimneys since my post, and the problem was cleared up with Sodium Hypo,and my best results occured when I used the SH from the 55 gal drum that I BOUGHT TODAY. Thanks again to Rowdie! A local PW supplier only charges $150 for 55 gal delivered. interestingly they suggest adding a sodium hydroxide solution to the SH mix to improve efficacy. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

OK, back to the conundrum: I think that the problem I was facing was not necessarily soot. Most of the black stuff on chimneys appear to be the organisms that we kill with SH. I have enjoyed a great deal of success using SH and my M5XJet. I WILL confess that the Elemonator left me flat footed. It seemed that too much of my solution was ending up on the ground, but maybe it was the pool shock I was buying. Nonetheless, I used Cling-on from Power works this time.

Maybe one more application should do it.

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No more calls please, we have a winner!

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Nice, thanks for the update. What was your mix ratio?

Straight SH 12.5 with 1 cup clingon per 5 gal, proportioner removed from XJet (should hit the brick at 1/2 strength).

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I also did part of my roof with the same mix today. Will need more info before I finish that roof, but solution did a great job. I think Iā€™ll start a discussion about roofs and the XJet.

I did a roof with an M5. My issue with it is the amount of solution put on the roof. Or the amount running off. Either way I just bought a 12v system.

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I expect to go that route eventually. I hope for a compact system that will incorporate my 28ā€™ water fed pole.